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Rocket — Wed, 18 May 2005 02:51:06 -0000

Why do you mean by that, fera ?

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Chas — Thu, 12 May 2005 13:53:19 -0000

John was a total tool.
I think he was getting worse as the time went on because he was "freaking out" from not playing his drums for so long. Something like that can really affect your rational thought process. You need to keep a chain wallet in your pocket to remind you just how cool you are when your'e taken out of such a hip element and thrown in with such square people. I mean... college grads? ewwwww.

I hear he hired Van Halen to play at his birthday party... man, how cool is that. I hope they play "smokin in the boys room."

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Carolyn is losing it — Thu, 12 May 2005 09:16:34 -0000

I watched the previews of tonight's show. They show Carolyn not understanding why Tana has such a problem with her crew..she says: "afterall they're self-made millionaires, they're not idiots...the very next scene they show Chris not knowing what a timeline was or how to read it and Brian playing with a stapler.

Carolyn, I laughed out loud at your statement. She's not above editing either I see.

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None — Thu, 12 May 2005 04:18:12 -0000

We are about to find out if Tana's crew loses this thing for her. It doesn't look good.

The ladies may or may not be equal in talent, that remains to be seen, but they certainly do not have equal teammates to assist them.

I'll take Kendra's crew and job in a N.Y. minute over what Tana has to do and who she got to do it with.

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Dave — Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:34 -0000

Who lost the task John was fired on?
John.

Who got fired?

John.

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None — Wed, 11 May 2005 07:52:21 -0000

I have to agree that this 3rd season show did not have the best candidates. I'm in full agreement.

I think this was done because of a loss in ratings and that everyone so enjoyed the Omarosa shows, that they conspired to have more of the same by choosing some of these "lesser" candidates. I trust they have learned from this mistake?

If they did throw the best of John's work on the cutting room floor then shame on them, but this show has time and again fired the PM for a task lost, so much so, that I can't see the conspiracy by firing him then.

By asking the people back in Tana's task is more telling about what their hopes were for this season and what they really think of the viewing public. We did to ourselves I guess by tuning out after Omarosa got fired.

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Moxie — Wed, 11 May 2005 06:17:18 -0000

And that's a sad example of what this show has come to. What happeneed to "the best of the best" and "the cream of the crop?" Granted Ereka, Heidi and Jason weren't exactly stellar from season one, nor was Stacie J., Jon or Jen C. from season 2. But at least those seasons had a cast full of actual talent. This season? The skill level was so sub par that there is no way they can claim that these peopel were "the best of the best." This was put together to ensure a female win.

What does it say when a woman is finaly chosen out of a cast full of losers and incompetants? It's a win by default is anything...and it sucks.

As far as John...you mean Trump is going to hold someone's alleged chauvinistic behavior against them? Pot, meet kettle. He didn't shine on the auction task but was no worse than Chris or Alex and various points of this competition. Except John showed a bit better leadership ability when he PM'd the first task. Alex gets chance after chance as did Chris (who showed a dangerously exlosive temper) and John gets fired on the auction task? When Erin or Stephanie easily could have gone as well?

Two words - set up.

Whomever wins this season shouldn't shout it from the rooftops. The won because they sucked just a bit less than the rest of these nitwits.

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None — Wed, 11 May 2005 03:12:42 -0000

Moxie,

There weren't any formidable candidates in this season. It appears to have been put together this way on purpose. No Harvard, Princeton or Yalies in this season.

Someone has to win it out of this group. It does look contrived for 2 women but when I look at the candidates that were fired, they all were righteous firings.

Even though they edited John to be a sexist guy, he did say those things too many times. It wasn't just once as a joke, it was continuous. He swears he was set up by creative editing. A couple of times, maybe but they had too many of his utterings to use against him. He did blow the final task, and he lost.

I don't see a contrivance to get rid of the best so they could have 2 ladies in the final task. I see a contrivance to keep the bad boy in place to bolster ratings more so then to have women in the finals. Tana and Kendra deserve to be there, they are the best of that lot.

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Catchthetour — Tue, 10 May 2005 14:02:28 -0000

I'm sure Kendra will pull it off perfectly. I'll bet the Sony tables were not to be in the main room for the actual play. Kendra read her contract.

I took the tour of N.Y.C. It's the best. It stops at Trump tower. Great waterfall in the lobby.

http://www.newyorkpartyshuttle.com/

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Chas — Mon, 09 May 2005 10:44:56 -0000

I can't help but to keep thinking that The Sony Playstations that were put in the basement were intended to be the machines that the Games from EA were played on. I think Electronic Arts is just a software company, why would they get "exclusive" rights to the ballroom when they don't make gaming machines?

I think Kendra does not know what she is doing.

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Moxie — Mon, 09 May 2005 09:42:58 -0000

Anyway, he was fired because he got stuck on one idea that wasn't as creative as the other team's and he made less money.
Trump was was more than pleased with John's stint as PM in the first task. If I recall, he actually commended him. And, as PM's go, he was above par. The next two tasks he worked hard and contributed and gave some good ideas. (The used his idea for the Dove task.)

I fully agree that he didn't "think big enough" on the auction task, but in that situation especially when John had a better than average reputation (in comparison to the other people on his team with Trump) and given the fact that Chris as PM delegated the most important aspect of the task to someone else withotu even seeing how they did...John didn't deserve to be fired. He said plenty of off color things (as did Stephenie and Erin at various points who suudenly both felt offended at teh idea of having their saexuality used as a selling point). Both Stephanie and Erin were shown in the re-cap participating in that charade (askign Gene Simmons to see his tongue, etc.) and let's not even go into Erin's shameless winking that led to her firing and tellign gusy she found men holding power tools "hot.". In that Auction episode, Chris should have been fired. John deserved another chance. Look how long Alex survived1 He did NOTHING. Freakin' Kwaame made glaring errors and he made final 2!

This season was a scam. If I were a woman an on this show, I'd either want to go up against a formidable women or man and beat them. Any other way and it's not a real win. Tana and Kendra are both average at best. One has great marketing ability but can't plan, delegate or communicatw to save her life. The other lacks polish and business savvy. Whomeveer wins this year is just a patsy to give Trump and Burnett the ability to go back to casting beauty queens, models and pretty boys.

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Helen — Mon, 09 May 2005 09:42:25 -0000

Bobbie,

That speaks well for Tana. She knew how to make a potential enemy her friend. Kendra is young and probably never was exposed to someone like Craig before.

I'm really here to speak up for our High School graduates. I have hired and worked with many of them over the years and I can say that I'm appalled by the behavior of this group. I have to wonder how the rest of the world is perceiving our education values if this is supposedly the best of one million candidates.

We have one gal who can't complete a sentence without being beeped-- how many times? Another, who admitted she wanted to cut her face??

A fellow who was arrested for disorderly conduct, and I heard that he and the other fellow who was also brought back, were in a fist fight together while in the sequester hotel.

This is quite an indictment of our education system with the entire world watching. I hope we see more worthy candidates in the future.

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Debby — Mon, 09 May 2005 09:33:19 -0000

Stacking the deck with the worst was a mean trick!
As for the final challenge, I agree they need to do more thinking about it. Why not have the two finalists have to hire a crew and build a house in two weeks for Habitat for Humanity? They could be judged on the efficiency of their crew, their ability to meet the deadlines, and a building inspector and rate the final products -- the houses. Something like that would demonstrate more skills and would warrant a two-hour show.
I think Kendra has an edge just because Donald seems to take her more seriously. I really think Trump has a bias against Tana because she's from the Midwest.
~Debby

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Bobbie Gossage — Mon, 09 May 2005 08:36:21 -0000

I still can't get over how Tana walked into the boardroom and stood there waiting for Craig to pull back her chair. And he did. She had him wrapped around her little finger.

It's going to be hard for Kendra to lose this task. Tana has the deck totally stacked against her. Plus, her cheery demeanor doesn't play well in New York and probably won't play well with Trump.

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Nadine Heintz — Mon, 09 May 2005 07:56:14 -0000

Moxie: I don't agree that John was one of the most viable candidates. Besides being crass and cocky, he lacked talent. What's the basis for your high opinion of the guy?

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Robert Davis — Mon, 09 May 2005 07:38:57 -0000

I'm with Mimi on this one. It is amazing that Kendra designed the Pontiac brochure by herself and that they are actually using it. While the others went to sleep???? Hello???

She has the ideas and she knows how to implement them, period.

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Your Kidding, Right? — Mon, 09 May 2005 04:46:42 -0000

The only way we would ever have to work with the likes of Tana's crew would only happen if we were incarcerated. The B team? I'm laughing out loud.

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Jacqui — Mon, 09 May 2005 04:35:01 -0000

Moxie,

Trump said, while sitting in his limo, that the person who wins the final task will be hired.

That's a change from the last show where the fat-cats humiliated Jennifer Massey on National T.V. and themselves. Did that ever get out of control.

So they've changed the format. Ten to one, Trump will still play the game of making the "decision".
I expect nothing less from him.

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Dave — Mon, 09 May 2005 04:22:00 -0000

"some sort of superstar to a lecherous sleaze bag just to justify his firing"

Ok, I don't want to sound like a representative of the show, but it seems many posters have unrealistic expectations of business situations.

Did the show edit all the words into John's mouth? Anyway, he was fired because he got stuck on one idea that wasn't as creative as the other team's and he made less money. Not realistic? Sure, the show is edited to typecast people, but I haven't seen anything happen on the show that I haven't seen in real life business situations, except all the firings each week.

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Moxie — Sun, 08 May 2005 15:53:53 -0000

Cna someone please explain the whole "whomever wins the final task wins the job" thing? I missed that along the way. Is that a format change?

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None — Sun, 08 May 2005 13:14:24 -0000

I was reading an old interview Trump gave about the difference in season 1 & 2. He said the candidates were weak in season 2 and that's why the ratings fell off. Season 3 was going to have better candidates...etc. LMAO.

How many people did they have to fire all around Chris to keep him in place to bolster ratings? Did it work? Were the rating higher because a bad boy was there and we all loved the way he snarled in the boardroom scenes? I don't think so. It does look a lot contrived this season but for many reasons.

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Moxie — Sat, 07 May 2005 08:31:50 -0000

Since they're changing the format that the person who wins the task gets the prize, it certainly looks like Tana wasn't wanted in the first place.

If this is true, then this show needs a serious overhaul. The whole season was manipulated and contrived to have an all female final 2, to the point where they made the most viable looking candidate (John) go from some sort of superstar to a lecherous sleaze bag just to justify his firing and leave room for either of these two lackluster women. It also shows that they hdidn't have full confidence in Kendra to the point where they had to manipulate the outcome to help her win.

This show has gone from a top 5 rated show, to top 10, to top 15 to barely making the top 20. All in just 3 seasons. If that doesn't tell Burnett and Co that the format is weak and the plots see-through, then we can except another season of inept (byt pretty and potentially unbalanced) candidates duking it out for some contrived PR spot.

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None — Sat, 07 May 2005 02:42:56 -0000

Just the choice of candidates in this season told me they weren't too serious about the outcome.

Danny, writes songs for a living and does very well at it. How could he have been chosen to be on this show in the first place? Bringing him back? Whatever for?

I have to feel very sorry for Tana because they gave her the worst assistants, and the harder task. How hard is it to put gaming machines in a room?

Since they're changing the format that the person who wins the task gets the prize, it certainly looks like Tana wasn't wanted in the first place.

The die is cast, Kendra will have to fall on her face to lose this one. They pretty much handed it to her on a silver platter.

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Ahorre — Fri, 06 May 2005 18:16:10 -0000

I'm not so convinced on Tana and Kendra. The new 2005 format was different, but it felt "commercialized"

Trump was focused on cross marketing brands and their initiatives versus really trying to hire an apprentice.

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lisa — Fri, 06 May 2005 15:31:46 -0000

kendra definitely deserves to win this thing. originally i was a strong supporter of tana but she's beginning to seem awfully fake. i didn't like how she decided to go to bed for the pontiac task and then tried to take over the presentation; nor did i like the fact that she placed the blame entirely on alex when they failed miserably at the shirt selling task. clearly, tana was more concerned with bedazzling shirts than anything else. kendra has a strong, no-nonsense personality that would be perfect for the trump organization, whereas tana just seems like an uncouth woman with a toothy-fake grin and not a lot going on up there. kendra has both proven to be an extremely effective leader as well as a phenomenal player, contributing most of the marketing ideas.